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Naresh Kumar's avatar

Love it. I also love a glass of wine maybe two. Thank you for your skepticism. A correction the name Murthy is changed to Murphy in a few places probably AI. The province of India Murthy comes from Alcohol is totally banned not because of religion but the poor people spend the earnings on alcohol. The negative side is moonshine has gone up & regularly scores of people die in villages. In India the politicians who ban alcohol in specific states get elected. No science behind it but populism. There is nothing in Hinduism against intoxicants except a large part of the population in India is Muslim & there religion does not approve.

This is very similar to Salt & Hypertension debate (By the way I am a Cardiologist& I do enjoy your skepticism most of the time).

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Alternative Lives R Available's avatar

Interesting post. Thanks!

A couple of comments:

I think it is worth remembering that the reason for drinking alcohol was to kill the potentially lethal organisms in water. Here in France it was wine, and even young children traditionally had a small amount of wine added to the water they drank. Continued in many households to this day.

In Germanic countries, including Anglo Saxon Britain, it was mead, ale and beer, as much as 8 pints a day consumed with breakfast, midday meal and dinner. No one dare drink water!

Much French cuisine includes marinading meat in wine or brandy, which was a good idea before refrigeration! And most meals would begin with an aperitif (strong alcohol) with various wines suitably marched with each course, and a brandy afterwards, all of which would be good protection from any slightly off food! So the health benefits might be considerable!

I saw some news report a few years ago that in America, cardiac emergencies soar every time there is a snowfall. Apparently it is directly related to unfit and overweight American men clearing snow from their driveway to get their car out - the consequence of cold weather, thickened blood and excess exercise.

On the same thread, when I lived in the French Alps, in winter the local workmen would meet in the cafe before work, around 8am, and take a cognac with their café, sometimes two. They'd then go off clearing snow and avalanches, cutting up fallen trees and dealing with the winter's problems. I later realised that the morning alcohol may be saving their lives!

In summary, I think the circumstances and wider picture of the use of alcohol is very relevant to the outcomes. I could add situations like stress (a known killer) and drinking to relax, and drinking to be more sociable (loneliness also a known killer), and drinking to help bonding, such as maintain marriages and relationships (married people live longer - never understood that one! 😬).

I too am sceptical of medical research, so often with an agenda, so often later proven false, especially that which ignores the complications and circumstances. There should be full disclosure on funding and corporate ties for research, and heavy fines for biased and deliberately false reports.

Just my view.

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